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First Look — Dynafit Freeride Aero Backcountry Skiing Boots

by Lou Dawson October 30, 2005
written by Lou Dawson

Like most backcountry skiers who live in the mountains and ski on-and-off the resorts, I’m always looking for the boot that can do it all. The boot that is comfortable and relatively lightweight for touring, but has enough beef for lift served laps when my quads and feet need all the help they can get.


Dynafit Freeride backcountry skiing boot

Dynafit Freeride Aero backcountry skiing boot might be the one-rig of choice. Please click image for massive enlargement.

To that end, look what just arrived at WildSnow.com worldwide headquarters: the latest greatest 4-buckle offering from Dynafit — the Freeride Aero backcountry skiing boot.

On first (and second) glance, these backcountry skiing boots are easily one of the most nicely engineered and best looking randonnee shoes that have ever passed through our doors. And yes, they are BEEFY.

The Freeride Aero’s strength starts with a firm foundation of stiff plastic, enhanced by an exoskeleton that might be more decorative than functional (after all, today IS Halloween), but looks cool and certainly adds at least a bit of control. Add four micro-adjust buckles, more height in the shell than most other rando boots, and a super-stiff cuff latch. Result: this appears to be a no-compromise boot that’s basically a performance downhill ski boot with a vibram sole AND DYNAFIT BINDING FITTINGS. Indeed — the holy grail for many performance oriented backcountry skiers!

What else? The Freeride Aero shell footbed is nearly flat (little built-in arch) — an important feature for custom boot fitting. Both the shell and liner tongue are actually high enough to go UNDER the power strap, and yield smooth shin pressure (this opposed to many backcountry skiing boots that fit the power strap like it’s an afterthought). Taking a cue from those of us who used to rivet those pesky loose spoilers on earlier model Dynafits, the Freeride’s spoiler is riveted, but obviously rigged for easy removal or customization for backcountry skiing by simply drilling out a few fasteners. Inside the shell is a cool feature: small stops molded into the shell so you can’t over-compress the shell in forward flex. In other words, you jam your ski tips into a big mogul and you won’t compress an ankle to the point of injury (a not uncommon problem with skiing Randonnée boots that that allow more cuff flex than alpine boots).

Of course, the crowning feature of the the Freeride Aero are the Dynafit Binding fittings, and since this is a Dynafit brand boot, it uses the latest toe fittings with the lead-in notch said to ease entry into Dynafit backcountry skiing bindings.

Can you tell I’m impressed by these boots? I am, and there appears to be little downside. While the cuff of the Freeride has a couple degrees built-in cant, I’d like a cuff canting system (my boot fitter will have to add a cant rivet to the shell). And of course they weigh a bit more than a backcountry “touring” randonnee boot. But I can’t wait to ski these things — they simply look fantastic!

We’ve got more early season snow here in Colorado than I’ve ever seen (check Mt. Sopris cam, on list to right), so I’ll get these boots out for extensive backcountry skiing testing over the next few weeks, and report back here with exact weights and a performance evaluation. In the meantime, if you’re looking for the ultimate “one-rig” backcountry skiing boot, be advised, THIS MIGHT BE IT.

Weights:
Dynafit Aero, sole 324, 73.5 ounces per boot
Garmont Mega Ride, sole 330, 64.8 ounces per boot

Lou Dawson

WildSnow.com publisher emeritus and founder Lou (Louis Dawson) has a 50+ years career in climbing, backcountry skiing and ski mountaineering. He was the first person in history to ski down all 54 Colorado 14,000-foot peaks, has authored numerous books about about backcountry skiing, and has skied from the summit of Denali in Alaska, North America’s highest mountain.

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Backcountry Skiing Boots – The Fuss Continues

by Lou Dawson April 29, 2005
written by Lou Dawson

Randonnee boot sole dimensions for backcountry skiing.
A while ago I obtained the DIN standard
for randonnee boots. Until telemark has something similar to
this, all bets are off. For a larger image, please see the Naxo FAQ.

A while ago I obtained the DIN standard for randonnee boots. Until telemark has something similar to this, all bets are off. Full image that includes toe.

Over at TelemarkTips.com the ranting about boot and binding standards continues. It’s amusing to watch, as one can imagine this same dialog happening with alpine boots thirty or forty years ago. Good could come of it, however, since telemark boots of the future may have soles shaped like randonnee boots, and thus easily used in randonnee bindings (Not to mention the possibility of telemark bindings with full release, step-in-out, free touring pivot (coming soon), and other features that randonee bindings have had for years).

Problem is, while it appears that a standardized backcountry skiing telemark boot sole may be something a few industry folk will push, it remains to be seen if it becomes a “DIN” standard such as that of randonnee. Without a rock solid DIN standard, I predict squabbling will commence. Track back.

Blog comment:
Hi Lou, in the TelemarkTips report the Rottefella guy said this about NTN:
“I think what we are seeing is that it is impossible to make a compromise product. Even though alpine bindings are required to do so much less than tele bindings, they don’t make a single do-it-all product either, they have racing bindings, recreational and freeride bindings, and you have others that do this or that.”

Why doesn’t he make a real comparison between randonee bindings and telemark bindings, not alpine bindings in general? He then couldn’t say that randonnee bindings are required to do so much less than telemark bindings. That is clearly overstated, almost hyperbolic. The main thing randonnee bindings aren’t required to do is take Iron Age technology (cables) and use it to help bend a ski into a turn. Sheesh.

Best, MD

Lou Dawson

WildSnow.com publisher emeritus and founder Lou (Louis Dawson) has a 50+ years career in climbing, backcountry skiing and ski mountaineering. He was the first person in history to ski down all 54 Colorado 14,000-foot peaks, has authored numerous books about about backcountry skiing, and has skied from the summit of Denali in Alaska, North America’s highest mountain.

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Garmont Backcountry Skiing Boot Mods

by Lou Dawson April 10, 2005
written by Lou Dawson

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Backcountry skiing boot.
Garmont Mega Ride backcountry ski boots
with Scarpa buckle swapped on, (lower "fourth" buckle has been
removed). Cord at toe is for Dynafit binding safety leash.

Our Garmont Mega Ride mods are complete. If you haven’t been following that, we started with a fresh pair of Garmont backcountry ski boots and gave them the full treatment at the boot fitter.

The Garmonts skied well, but the lower buckles caught on the rocks during ski mountaineering rock scrambling and scree hiking.

We subsequently removed the lower factory buckles and replaced with those from an old pair of Scarpa Lasers, so the more vulnerable and bulky part of the buckle is now located on top of the boot instead of on the side.

Swapping buckles around is relatively easy. The key is having a variety of small fasteners called “screw rivets.” You can usually get a few sizes of screw rivets at the hardware store, but boot fitters source a greater variety than you can find via retail. So if you’re planning on DIY boot mods, contact a boot fitter and get a variety of fasteners before you start.

Note the 05/06 Garmonts now have the lower buckles located in a similar fashion as this mod.

An interesting aside: Ski mountaineers may frequently use their boots for rock climbing, boulder hopping and scree hiking. Doing so will eventually trash the “DIN” shape of the toe, not to mention embedding dirt and gunk in the plastic. Most randonnee AT backcountry ski bindings depend on the boot toe being a consistent standardized shape, and more, such bindings need a relatively low friction interface between the boot toe and binding “toe jaws.” Once your boot toes are trashed and covered with dirt, consistent and safe release of such bindings is nearly impossible.

A few backcountry bindings do NOT depend on the shape or condition of the boot toe for consistent and safe release. Among those are the Dynafit models and any Silvretta with a toe wire. It’s wise to keep this in mind when choosing bindings for backcountry skiing — especially if you spend time with your skis on your pack instead of your feet.

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Lou Dawson

WildSnow.com publisher emeritus and founder Lou (Louis Dawson) has a 50+ years career in climbing, backcountry skiing and ski mountaineering. He was the first person in history to ski down all 54 Colorado 14,000-foot peaks, has authored numerous books about about backcountry skiing, and has skied from the summit of Denali in Alaska, North America’s highest mountain.

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What we learned from Backcountry Skiing Fourteener Epics

by Lou Dawson April 5, 2005
written by Lou Dawson

TNF says “Never Stop Exploring.” No problem there. Yet better, we say “Always Keep Learning.” To that end, a few things our last trip schooled us on:

“Adult” ski mountaineering frequently involves rock scrambling and scree hiking. The lower buckles on your ski boots have to be located on TOP of the boot, or they catch on the rocks and get damaged — or worse, the buckles trip you and cause a potentially life threatening fall. Sure enough, the side mounted lower buckle on my Mega Rides was a complete disaster, catching hundreds of times on the rocks of Mounts Shavano and Princeton, ending up bent and trashed. The Garmonts are going to the boot fitter TODAY for a buckle mod. We’ll change them to something like the Scarpa Laser configuration with the buckle on top of the boot rather than on the side.

Garmont Mega Ride buckle damage.
Garmont Mega Ride buckle is mounted low on the side, easily trashed while climbing as this one was. Buckles are easy to re-locate so we’ll do so ASAP!

Other backcountry skiing lessons: Icing conditions haunted us during both climbs. If we hadn’t had a block of skin wax we’d have failed on both peaks. More, the Dynafit toe sockets in our boots filled up with solid ice nearly every time we hiked more than a few feet without skis. The tip of a Voile strap buckle worked okay for cleaning the holes, but carrying a dedicated tool such as a 16d nail would have worked better for backcountry skiing. We’ve carried those in the past, and will start again. We both carried small survival kits in our packs, with fire starting items. When darkness fell and we were still in the middle of a forest somewhere far from the trailhead, having such eliminated panic and kept us from making poor decisions about crossing avalanche paths and such. We could have used more water — if I’d known we’d be out for so long I’d have carried a lightweight stove and pot, and melted snow in the afternoon rather than carrying the weight of extra water.

In all, our gear worked exceedingly well. But part of the fun is learning and improving, so we continue.

Lou Dawson

WildSnow.com publisher emeritus and founder Lou (Louis Dawson) has a 50+ years career in climbing, backcountry skiing and ski mountaineering. He was the first person in history to ski down all 54 Colorado 14,000-foot peaks, has authored numerous books about about backcountry skiing, and has skied from the summit of Denali in Alaska, North America’s highest mountain.

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Fitting and Testing Garmont Mega Ride Backcountry Ski Boots

by Lou Dawson March 28, 2005
written by Lou Dawson

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Garmont Mega Ride backcountry skiing boot
Garmont Mega Ride backcountry skiing boot with lower buckle removed, and after-market liner. The stock thermo-form liner of the Mega is the highly rated Garmont G-Fit liner — also an excellent choice if it works for you. In my case the after market liner worked better, so that’s what I went with. I also removed the power strap for average touring, will replace for extreme skiing.

Fun was had the past two days while working over a pair of Garmont Mega Ride AT ski boots. Been in Aspen at the boot fitter for hours, then testing by skiing the steeps of Aspen Mountain as well as doing a bit of hiking around. Follow along as I tune and ski a new pair of backcountry skiing boots — the way it should be done.

Out of the box, the Garmont Mega Ride shells (sans liners, since I use the same type of thermo-form liners in all my AT boots) weighed about 4 ounces more per boot than my pair of stock Scarpa Lasers. Unacceptable. If an AT backcountry skiing boot is supposed to improve on ancient history such as the Laser, the least it could do is match the weight. Ah yes, a chance to modify!

First weight question: Is that fourth buckle (near the toe of the boot) on the Garmont really necessary, or is it there for shelf appeal, making the boot easier to market to huckers? Perhaps the fourth buckle does add slightly more beef by limiting shell distortion when you’re going 50 mph on a pair of gigantic skis — but this boy doesn’t ride like that. So off came the buckles, which trimmed almost 3 ounces. Easy. Grind some rubber off the sole, and done, weight now matches that of Laser backcountry skiing boot.

On to fitting for backcountry skiing. It’s no secret that some ski boots are hard to fit, especially if they have a high arch and larger volume shell. While the Garmont still has an arch built into the shell, it’s much lower than some others, and thus easier for a boot fitter to use as a platform for a custom footbed. More, the Garmont shell has noticeably less volume. This can make boot fitting tougher for problem feet, but is good for me because all I usually need is a molded custom liner for backcountry skiing — and such liners work better when stuffed into a slightly smaller space.

In detail: Most quality alpine ski boots have a flat “footboard” under your foot that’s separate from the boot shell. The footboard provides a neutral surface, so a boot fitter can assume he’s working from a flat surface when making your custom foot beds (otherwise known as “insoles”). Conversely, with most backcountry skiing randonnee boots, your custom foot bed must compensate for the existing shape of the shell under your foot — a sometimes difficult requirement. More, the alpine boot footboard can easily be raised or dropped, thus changing boot volume, or allowing a heel/toe “tilt” known as delta or ramp angle in the boot fitting trade.

Without a footboard, fitting a backcountry skiing randonnee boot requires modification of the custom footbed to achieve changes in delta or volume — further adding to the challenge. Presumably, the reason most AT boots are made without footboards, and with built-in arch, is to reduce weight and allow for a hiking type sole — but it sure can make them hard to tune.

Thus, while the Garmonts still lack a footboard, it was a joy to work with their almost flat interior platform. The bootfitter made me a pair of custom beds, and with only a smidge of extra grinding they settled my feet into the Garmont Mega Rides like they’d grown with me in the womb. Well, almost. While the Mega’s sole measured exactly the same (28 cm) as my Lasers, the shell has less volume, and for some reason is slightly shorter on the inside.

One standard of boot fitting is to use the smallest shell you can. While in the case of backcountry boots that standard might be work against you, I generally try to stick with it because I get better skiing boots as a result. In this case, after molding a set of custom thermo-form liners for the shorter Garmonts, my toes were banging into hard plastic while in walk mode (they were fine when locked in downhill mode).

Again, the fix was easy for a competent retailer with boot fitting expertise: Using a precision boot stretcher with a “big toe” mandrel, Bill’s partner Mark Rolfus fired up the heat gun and stretched the Garmont toe box about 1/8 inch — all I needed for comfort in walk mode.

(I should mention that we also used the cuff alignment “canting” pivot on the Mega Ride cuff, along with the custom foot beds, to tune my knock knee stance — an essentail with all my ski boots.)

That was about it. The backcountry ski boots felt like tennis shoes — I even drove my stick-shift Cherokee home with them on (otherwise known as the “driving test”)!

But the real test is how they ski.

When switching boots, it’s important to compare your forward “lean” angle to that of your previous boots. If it’s much different your first turn might put you on your rear end. The Garmonts were the same as my Lasers, so no problem there. (If adjustment had been necessary, we’d have changed the lean with footbed modifications and shim material in front or behind the calf — or even modified the lean-lock mechanism.)

Another factor in a boot switch is how different the flex is. The stock Garmonts are similar in flex to a stock Scarpa Laser or Matrix, while a bit softer than my modified Laser “Frankenboots” . Over the past few years I’ve been learning to ski with less forward boot pressure, using modern skis to “turn themselves” a bit more. Thus, while I’ve enjoyed my stiff modified Lasers, I decided to stick with the stock Garmont shell, and work with it.

Aspen Mountain is a great place to test backcountry skiing boots. The gondola gets you 3,000 verts in about 12 minutes, and dumps you at the top of numerous double black diamond runs where your gear and technique are immediately on the edge.

No exception for this test. Even though I was on a pair of meager AT skis, with Dynafit bindings, I dived right into Walshes Gulch and Kristi Gully, where I found a few icy 45 degree bumps that immediately asked as much of the Garmonts as they could give — not to mention my fitness and technique. After that, it was on to Elevator Shaft (the name doesn’t lie) and a few other choice delights where visions of beefy alpine gear were immediately dancing before my eyes — especially when my son disappeared from sight, aggressively out-skiing me on his Atomic TMs and Salomon alpine performance boots, followed by “tele” Ned Ryerson on big alpine skis with his telemark rig and Garmont boots, of course (ho hum, at least my AT gear weighs half what their “junk” does).

But, the Garmonts did well. I had fun making slow turns down Elevator Shaft, and was delighted at how nimble and responsive the boots felt in moderate terrain similar to where I do most of my backcountry skiing. Custom fitting has a lot to do with such performance, but your foundation is key, and the Garmonts gave myself and the boot fitter something we could work with. In all, a big thumbs up for the Garmont Mega Ride, especially if you have an average to low arched foot, and are tired of dealing with the “Scarpa bump” pressing up against your foot.

One last evaluation: Known as the “beer test,” the question is, can you stand around in your boots after a day of backcountry skiing and enjoy a Corona? My custom fitted Garmonts passed that harsh trial with ease.

Fun stuff, and the Garmonts will accompany me on a few choice Fourteener adventures this spring.

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Lou Dawson

WildSnow.com publisher emeritus and founder Lou (Louis Dawson) has a 50+ years career in climbing, backcountry skiing and ski mountaineering. He was the first person in history to ski down all 54 Colorado 14,000-foot peaks, has authored numerous books about about backcountry skiing, and has skied from the summit of Denali in Alaska, North America’s highest mountain.

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Cloudveil Clothing and Garmont Adrenaline Boots

by Lou Dawson December 28, 2004
written by Lou Dawson

Penn from Backbone Media brought over a nice sampling of Cloudveil gear we’ll be using for our next cycle of Couloir Magazine backcountry skiing clothing reviews. One incredibly nice piece is the Icefloe softshell. My son snapped this up for his trip today to Highland Bowl. Another nice item in the goodie box was a woman’s Wister Jacket — the perfect light insulating layer for those fit and fast days when you are feeling GOOD!

Penn and his wife are super athletes — fast uphillers and terrific skiers. I was always wondering when they’d convert to Scarpa F1 backcountry skiing boots and Dynafit bindings for races and super-fast ascents. I’m wondering no more as they’ve both picked up Dynafit setups. Penn is an awesome telemarker so I’m not expecting him to go rando for everything, but he’ll be fast in the races if he at least uses Dynafit for that. His wife skis randonnee with Fritschis and she’s still too fast uphill. Now she’s got some Dynafits. Look out world.

More gear notes: I just got off the phone with Aspen powder guide Bob Perlmutter. He’s been on a twenty year quest for one-rig randonnee AT boots, and thinks he might have found something close in the Garmont Adrenaline. After dealing with some fit issues, his tip is to consider swapping out the liners if you have any problems. He ended up with Raichle thermo liners (the ones with the thick overlap in front of your shin)– but recommends giving the stock liners some time before you cut bait.

Lou Dawson

WildSnow.com publisher emeritus and founder Lou (Louis Dawson) has a 50+ years career in climbing, backcountry skiing and ski mountaineering. He was the first person in history to ski down all 54 Colorado 14,000-foot peaks, has authored numerous books about about backcountry skiing, and has skied from the summit of Denali in Alaska, North America’s highest mountain.

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